Alcatel-Lucent

[Scott Weeks]

--- ***@daork.net wrote:
From: Nathan Ward <***@daork.net>

Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were
some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6
routing table.
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<vendor ears == ON> Hopefully... ;-)

I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM.

scott

































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[Kevin Billings]

To run IPV6 on a 7750 you will need the new IOM 2 cards. They do cost a few
$$$ more...

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Weeks [mailto:***@mauigateway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:16 PM
To: ***@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent



--- ***@daork.net wrote:
From: Nathan Ward <***@daork.net>

Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were
some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6
routing table.
-----------------------------------


<vendor ears == ON> Hopefully... ;-)

I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to pay an order of
magnitude more for an IOM.

scott

































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[Oriana Palivan]

Hi,

I've just changed my IP/MPLS bakcbone with Alcatel ESSs and SRs. Where can I check on the SR 7750 the version of the IOM, to see if I have the IOM2 by any chance?

Thanks.
Regards, Oriana

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De: Kevin Billings [mailto:***@infoave.net]
Date: mer. 14.05.2008 04:59
À: ***@merit.edu
Objet : Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent



To run IPV6 on a 7750 you will need the new IOM 2 cards. They do cost a few
$$$ more...

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Weeks [mailto:***@mauigateway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:16 PM
To: ***@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [NANOG] Alcatel-Lucent



--- ***@daork.net wrote:
From: Nathan Ward <***@daork.net>

Ask for a v6 roadmap. Last time I looked (~ a year ago) there were
some strange limitations, for example, a surprisingly small max v6
routing table.
-----------------------------------


<vendor ears == ON> Hopefully... ;-)

I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to pay an order of
magnitude more for an IOM.

scott

































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[m***@bt.com]

Post by Scott Weeks
<vendor ears == ON> Hopefully... ;-)

Not likely! This is a motley crew of people who like to jabber,
not a forum for your favorite vendor's customer support.

Post by Scott Weeks
I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to
pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM.

May I suggest that you will make much more impact on your vendor's
radar if you explicitly ask your vendor rep for this feature, in
writing. And then proceed to try setting up IPv6 in a VPRN as
a lab experiment, then raise cases with your vendor's TAC when you
run across problems. Tell them that you are doing the lab work as
the first phase to commercial introduction of IPv6 services.

One reason that IPv6 support is in a sorry state is that people
try something, find it doesn't work, and then suffer in silence.
Please do not suffer in silence! Please do explicitly tell people
about the specific issues that you encounter and please do name
names. Tell us which vendor, which device, which software release,
etc. etc. yadda yadda boom!

The more talk there is about IPv6, the more it gets on vendor radar
and the quicker they will fix problems and improve support. And don't
forget all those vendors of NMS and OSS software.

--Michael Dillon

[Nicolas Antoniello]

By the way, to add some IPv6 technical noise:

Have you ever tried to set up MD5 auth. in a BGP over IPv6 session between an Alcatel
7750SR and a Cisco 6500... I keep getting a log message (Cisco) exposing some issue with
the MD5 digest from the Alcatel.
The funny thing is that Cisco <---> Cisco goes Fine, and Alcatel <---> Alcatel goes fine
(as obviously expected)... so may be you know something about any difference in the
implementation.
Even more "funny" is the fact that BGP MD5 auth. Cisco <---> Alcatel goes perfect over IPv4.

I'm also looking at some kind of issue like changes in TCP sequence numbers after MD5 hash
or such things, but I found nothing yet...

I've talk to Alcatel, but no answer yet...

Thx,

Nic.

Post by m***@bt.com

Post by Scott Weeks
<vendor ears == ON> Hopefully... ;-)

Not likely! This is a motley crew of people who like to jabber,
not a forum for your favorite vendor's customer support.

Post by Scott Weeks
I want to be able to carry IPv6 in a VPRN without having to
pay an order of magnitude more for an IOM.

May I suggest that you will make much more impact on your vendor's
radar if you explicitly ask your vendor rep for this feature, in
writing. And then proceed to try setting up IPv6 in a VPRN as
a lab experiment, then raise cases with your vendor's TAC when you
run across problems. Tell them that you are doing the lab work as
the first phase to commercial introduction of IPv6 services.
One reason that IPv6 support is in a sorry state is that people
try something, find it doesn't work, and then suffer in silence.
Please do not suffer in silence! Please do explicitly tell people
about the specific issues that you encounter and please do name
names. Tell us which vendor, which device, which software release,
etc. etc. yadda yadda boom!
The more talk there is about IPv6, the more it gets on vendor radar
and the quicker they will fix problems and improve support. And don't
forget all those vendors of NMS and OSS software.
--Michael Dillon
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